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Uncover Your Hero’s Journey

Season 1, Episode 10

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Hello!I’m Caneel.

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I’m a social scientist who helps people break out of the invisible traps and make whole-life changes easily and naturally. 

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It’s About the Journey And The Destination: A Quick Guide to the Hero’s Journey Framework

One of the biggest film franchises across the globe was a critical flop. The original Star Wars film was ripped apart by critics, but still became a cult classic and continues to be an uber-successful franchise. 


A classic story of a Hero’s Journey won the hearts of millions of moviegoers. The initial success of Star Wars wasn’t because of a marketing mastermind but because the story of a small-town boy, Luke Skywalker, beating the odds and creating an impact across the galaxy resonated with viewers.

Luke is a great example of the Hero’s Journey. 

In the original Star Wars film, Luke is living a simple village existence, he receives a calling to leave Tatooine and become involved in a struggle on a greater scale. 

Teamed up with the Rebel Alliance, he goes through a series of challenging tests where success, victory, and even survival is not guaranteed. Luke confronts terrible threats and dangers. 

Through this experience, he improves, he learns, and he channels his talents and gifts. Fundamentally, as an individual, he is changed by his experience. Upon the defeat of this test, he is ready to share his newfound talents and gifts with the world.

We can all relate to the Hero’s Journey and apply this mythos to our own life. 

You are on your own Hero’s Journey. If you look at any big struggle you have or are experiencing, the struggle is where you discovered or gained the gifts you now have and you move on throughout the world sharing those gifts.

What is the Hero’s Journey?

Mythologist Joseph Campbell was an academic who first identified and shared this pattern. In 1949 he published his book Hero With a Thousand Faces, in which he described the Hero’s Journey as the “monomyth”, an overarching myth found in societies across time and the globe. 

There are three main stages of the Hero’s Journey. 

The Departure

The first is a departure or separation where the individual (hero) leaves a familiar place or way of being to embark on an adventure. A modern example of this could be leaving home to go to college or quitting a comfortable position you’ve held. 

The Ordeal

The next stage is sometimes referred to as ordeal or initiation. At this stage, the hero enters the unknown. 

You head into an unfamiliar, uncertain space or location and experience challenges, struggles, and people as part of the new experience. This looks like moving into your college dorm or starting your new position at a startup. This is where you fight a dragon or duel with Darth Vader. 

You face a test.

This is the experience where you typically acquire a gift. The result of the challenges you faced. 

Often this can look like an internal change or a gaining of life skills. Moving across the country to go to college gave you a level of independence. Or working at a new startup helped you maximize your pitch. 

The Return

This gift acquisition leads to the final stage – the return. 

You can return home, literally or figuratively, with the gift or change you earned through your struggle ready to share it with the world or your community. 

Your Hero’s Journey

This framework gives context, meaning, and purpose to your life experience- both struggle and success. Each stage in this process has value and propels your personal growth. 

If you’re struggling you can remember you are in the initiation phase but you’re still a Hero. You’re a Hero at every stage, each stage is a part of your personal development.

You embark on your own Hero Journey, and I embark on mine. 

The Hero’s Journey is a blueprint of a consistent human experience. You will have your own unique aspects to yours, but in many ways, we will be doing the same work on the same Hero’s Journey. 

The events and learnings are different but the journey is the same.

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About this Episode

Are you in the midst of an epic Hero’s Journey? 

The answer is yes, we all are. The Hero’s Journey is an important construct in all of our lives and is present in cultures throughout the entire world. 

Everyone experiences longer “macro” Hero’s Journeys in their lives, as well as many smaller “micro” Hero’s Journeys, whether it’s having a child, going to college, starting your own business, or switching jobs. No matter what the details are of your journey, all Hero’s Journeys follow the same formula. 

Understanding and mapping out exactly where you are currently in your Hero’s Journey will help you move through the struggle more quickly to reach the return home where you can share your gifts with the world. 

In this episode, David Shechtman, a talented coach and partner at Evolution, shares his Hero’s Journey expertise, gained from decades of studying the art and science of behavior change, including many deep dives with Joseph Campbell’s Hero’s Journey dynamic. 

Guest Bio:

David Shechtman is a talented coach and partner at Evolution with two decades of experience working with CEOs, high-potential leaders, and successful sales professionals on mastering Deep Change. His expertise comes from decades of studying the art and science of behavior change, including many deep dives into Joseph Campbell’s Hero’s Journey dynamic.

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07:04 – What is The Hero’s Journey. Who is Joseph Campbell. How Stars Wars follows the Hero’s Journey. More examples of The Hero’s Journey at different levels and life stages. 

19:06 -Meet Coach David Shechtman and hear his story on how he developed his career and learn how it connects to the Hero’s Journey. 

23:18 The Hero’s Journey is a skeleton key for human development in a universal way. The Hero’s Journey represents the blueprint of a consistent experience that people go through on their life journey.

32:58 The importance of having meaning and purpose and formula identification in your life and career journey. The narrative structure created helps people define the experiences they have and make meaning of their life. 

35:31 The 3 main stages of The Hero’s Journey. Here is the most simplified version of the stages of the Hero’s journey so that you can immediately gain value and practical applications of learning about the Hero’s journey from this episode. The first is the departure. The second is the initiation or sometimes called the ordeal. The third is the return home. 

49:24 The Hero’s Journey is important for people to understand and utilize because struggle, challenge, and experience is what creates the gifts and transforms lives so that a person can embody the change in their lives, create sustainable change and remove themselves from patterns and cycles that are keeping them in the struggle much longer than they need to be. 

52:23 David’s Bear in his backyard story and how it relates to the Hero’s Journey. Within the Hero’s Journey, there are challengers, allies and other aspects of the experience that comes into it such as “The Call” and “The Dragon”

01:06:57 The denial of the call. 

01:11:00 The Hero’s Journey in the face of death. The mystery of death that shines light on the importance of life and allows us to redefine and gain clarity about our priorities and our ultimate story that is The Hero’s Journey of our life upon the final return home. 

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Noa Ries and Kim Havens:

Noa Ries

Noa is the co-founder of Kahilla, an online executive women’s network. She is passionate about building inspiring brands based on community and focused on women’s empowerment. With her co-founder, she has created a digital community offering resources that include curated coaching, content, and community for women on the rise. Their mission is simple: to build an honest, authentic business that unites and supports women in their desire to lead their best lives. In doing so, they’ve also created a safe space for women to have open conversations about the things that really matter to them.

Noa is an ‘active creative’ and natural relationship builder who is deeply connected to health and fitness. All of her businesses have centered on empowerment and community.


Kim Havens 

Kim co-founded Kahilla in 2018, seeking to help get gender and racial parity at the top of corporate America. Prior to that, she enjoyed an 18-year career in commercial real estate development building large-scale, urban communities that positively impacted people’s lives through thoughtful design.

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